OFC people will be less inclined to GTFO because the change promotes riskless, meaningless pvp. Bet you like wow too.

1. Of course, no major downsides. Eve is a game of risk/reward, opportunity and repercussion. Let's remove one of the repercussions from the opportunities and pretend like we're not invalidating the point of the game itself. Can we increase invuln timers post-warp too? Almost permanent jump cloaking. Because carebear.

2. Oddly enough, I'm still willing to bet the total amount of frigates lost before your capsule comes out to be a lot higher. Then again, if your clone costs 32m, I'm assuming you know how to get your pod out. The fact that we're discussing this obviously proves my last assumption wrong.

3. You're right, I don't have any sympathy. I don't have sympathy for miners who get ganked or mission runners who get suicide ganked. This is Eve, it's full of risk. Sometimes you get lucky and sometimes 50 Capitals blob you in Jita to ***** on your Frig killmail. Let's just remove all of the risk because we should feel sympathy for those who don't learn from mistakes or cover their own asses.

4. Forgot to pay your phone bill? Gets turned off. Forgot to pay rent? The sidewalk is warm this time of year. Forgetfulness is punished all the time. Why should it be any different here? The sheer fact of the matter is that it isn't a matter of forgetfulness. You know you run the risk of losing SP/Implants/Self respect when dying, so take steps not to lose your pod. Like I said, nothing but a bubble and a well timed bomb are going to get your pod if you know what you're doing.


It would be cool if we stopped assigning blame to third parties and actually discuss what this is all about:

WAHH I FORGOT TO UPGRADE MY CLONE AND LOST SP WAHH CCP HOLD HAND PLIS

Seriously, my clone isn't that expensive and it's been a few months since I lost the last one. I've lost more in frigates than your last year of clone upgrades. Cry me a river.

The clone "thing" is a part of the eve universe.

How about super mario brothers? Mushrooms aren't an interesting choice, they're a forced option. Able to break blocks, a buffer against completely dying, etc.

The clone mechanic is almost the same as SMB: You can lose SP without a clone on. You can fight and die without clone upgrades sure, but then you take losses. Buying the clone upgrade is analogous to getting a mushroom. It gives you a buffer.

Forced option because choosing none = no second chance to avoid death if youre hit by an enemy. Nice try though.

If dying isn't meaningful then playing eve isn't meaningful, as there's one less reason to be emotionally engaged with your character.

If there's nothing to risk, there's no real contest, and if there's no real contest, there's no real game. Why bother playing?

Actually learning implants are very much the same boat as clone grades. As they punish you for actually engaging in gameplay. While the other implants have real gameplay effects that only work when undocked learning implants have the same effect while docked so don't reward you for undocking with them in.

Everything else is spot on.

You're a PvPer who can't get your pod out?

implants only represent advantages, they give you an edge in return for isk. Lose them and you are just the same as everyone else which is hardly a disadvantage.

Ships, modules, rigs and implants are meaningless when you are swimming in isk. There is very real isk inflation in eve. Most vets that I know, right now are sitting on huge piles of isk. Losing a t1 ship and its mods is meaningless. Clone costs ensure that there is a floor level risk that a vet must engage in when he pvp's, thereby balancing pvp for new players and old alike.